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    DEET vs. Permethrin as a Tick Repellent

    I saw this article and thought it was worth posting here. I never knew that DEET was an effective fish repellent.

    Bob

    DEET vs. Permethrin as a Tick Repellent
    By Tom Grier

    Springtime is tick time. This means we will soon be seeing those cautionary ads on television telling us to use tick repellents. In almost every instance, the active ingredient in those advertised tick repellents will be DEET, which is the active ingredient in most mosquito repellents.

    DEET is an excellent mosquito repellent, but it is a fairly poor tick repellent. We are inundated with so many DEET repellents because there are several huge corporations that manufacture hundreds of variations of DEET products. There is only one small company ,Coulston Laboratory, that markets a handful of competitive tick repellent products for human use that contain 0.5 % permethrin.

    There are pros and cons to each product, but as a tick repellent, permethrin wins hands down. Permethrin is an insecticide derived from a chemical found in the chrysanthemum family of plants. It is a spray that is used on clothes only, and is deactivated and made less effective by the oils on our skin. Once it is sprayed on our clothing, it becomes odorless and can last for several weeks with a single application. Once it is applied, most ticks will curl up and fall off if they make contact, and will eventually die if there is prolonged exposure.

    Both DEET and permethrin have come under criticism for possible human side effects. DEET has been associated with human case histories of neurological damage and even death, and products greater than 40% were restricted in some states. Permethrin has been implicated in possibly contributing to the Gulf War syndrome. However, the studies involved mixing permethrin with DEET and applying it directly to the skin of mice that were then given military vaccines.

    Pros and Cons:
    DEET needs to be applied regularly and can only work as it is evaporating. Permethrin works for weeks after it has dried inside clothing fibers.
    DEET is applied directly to the skin and can be absorbed through the skin. Permethrin is applied to clothing only and has limited contact to the skin.
    DEET has a detectable odor. Permethrin smells only until it dries.
    DEET does not kill or disable ticks and is a poor repellent. Permethrin works instantly and is extremely effective. It is the tick repellent of choice by the military.
    DEET can melt synthetic clothes like nylon. Permethrin causes no damage to any known cloth or synthetic fiber.
    DEET products are easy to find. Permethrin is hard to find and more expensive.
    DEET is an effective fish repellent. Permethrin's effect on fish is unknown.
    Permethrin-containing products that are approved for human use are manufactured by Coulston labs, and can be found under labels such as Duranon, Permanone, and Congo Creek Tick Spray. A 0.5 % veterinary permethrin product can be found in most feed stores and horse supply shops as a horse tick repellent. The veterinary products tend to cost about half the price per ounce as the human-use product.

    The Minnesota Insect-Borne Disease Education Council conducted a field test in Jay Cook State Park in northern Minnesota, and found that the permethrin products outperformed the DEET-containing tick repellents. A shoe was sprayed with Duranon (0.5% permethrin). Three weeks later, it was tested against a recently sprayed shoe using Deep Woods Off (35 % DEET). Ticks that made contact with the Duranon-sprayed shoe immediately rolled up and dropped off. Ticks on the soaking-wet DEET saturated shoe continued to crawl unimpaired.

    One last tip for you fishermen out there: DEET is perhaps one of the most effective fish repellents known to man. Just a few parts per million can send game fish like salmon and trout to the other end of the fish tank. If you like to keep mosquito repellent in your tackle box, you may have unknowingly contaminated all of your fishing lures! Be sure to take care not to handle any fishing tackle once you have applied mosquito repellent. Just a few parts-per-million can repel more fish than mosquitoes!

    To avoid ticks:
    Wear light-colored clothing.
    Tuck your pants into your socks.
    Tuck your shirt into your pants.
    Wear a hat.
    Spray your shoes, socks, belt-line, collar and hat with a permethrin-containing tick repellent.
    Do a tick check after walking in high-risk areas.
    Put any clothes that might have live ticks on them into a hot dryer for ten minutes to kill all insects.

    Keep your Family Safe! Do Tick Checks!

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    Great article, I have been using the Permethrin spray few the past few years. It does work well at keep the ticks at bay. The best thing for the mosquito's is a therma cell. I have used the deet sprays, but after reading this I may rethink it. But I only used the deet spay as an extra on my hands and back of my neck and ears.

    I plan on setting up a set of scouting clothes with Permethrin spray as well as my hunting clothes.

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    Pete,

    I also have been using the Permethrin spray and the Thermacell few the past few seasons. This combination works well for me. The Permethrin does a great job with the ticks and I won't hunt without it. When I hang a the first deer of the season in the garage I spray the floor. This kills all of the ticks that drop off the deer. I haven't had a live tick on me or in the house since I started using the Permethrin.

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    Where can i find permethrin since i just found a deer tick in my side from fishing the other day. Idk if i should go to the dr. or not. I dont have a ring or anything yet so idk if i should go or not. what do you guys think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horizontal Hunter View Post
    Pete,

    I also have been using the Permethrin spray and the Thermacell few the past few seasons. This combination works well for me. The Permethrin does a great job with the ticks and I won't hunt without it. When I hang a the first deer of the season in the garage I spray the floor. This kills all of the ticks that drop off the deer. I haven't had a live tick on me or in the house since I started using the Permethrin.

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    Never thought about spaying the floor, nice tip. After reading that tip, It got me thinking about spraying Permethrin on the seats of my car and in the back of my durango.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turkeyjerky57 View Post
    Where can i find permethrin since i just found a deer tick in my side from fishing the other day. Idk if i should go to the dr. or not. I dont have a ring or anything yet so idk if i should go or not. what do you guys think.
    cabelas has it in the camping area

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    Wal-Mart also carries it in the camping section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turkeyjerky57 View Post
    Where can i find permethrin since i just found a deer tick in my side from fishing the other day. Idk if i should go to the dr. or not. I dont have a ring or anything yet so idk if i should go or not. what do you guys think.
    I prefer the Old Sawyer brand in an aresol can that I get at Cabelas. I also use the Repel brand which comes in a smaller can and I typically pick it up at Walmart or Dicks Sporting Goods. Keep in mind that it is also called Duranon, Permanone. The Old Sawyer uses Permethern and the Repel brand uses Permanone. I have found that both brands work equally well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete49 View Post
    Never thought about spaying the floor, nice tip. After reading that tip, It got me thinking about spraying Permethrin on the seats of my car and in the back of my durango.
    My wife parks in the garage and if she got a tick on her or found one in the Xterra I would be dead meat and you would find me hanging next to the deer.

    Bob
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    I've been using the permanone from walmart for years when hunting, running beagles and even when i cut wood. have'nt had a tick in years. also the permanone from walmart has no odor so it's great for deer hunting.

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